Los Mirayas
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Re: Los Mirayas
Jue 09 Feb 2012, 3:26 pm
Dear friend, can you tell us how did you get those papers? and if there is any story behind it, thanks
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Re: Los Mirayas
Jue 09 Feb 2012, 4:57 pm
I would be happy to,
My labor of love is the study of Native American Petroglyphs based on the Theories of LaVan Martineau from his Book "The Rocks Begin to Speak" and discovering the origins of the Indigenous of this land.
It is intertwined with other aspects of my studies which I will with hold at this time. As a result of this, I have many who bring me documents photographs and share ancient sites with me.
Some of these people are Noted "Treasure Hunters" some might even call them Professionals and they often ask for my opinion not only in the Native American Glyphs but for some reason the Spanish marks left on the rocks and others as well. One in particular is an author of several books, as a result of this he has many people who come to him with stories/documents handed down from within their family. This particular document was brought to him by a descendant of the man who wrote it who had spent many years looking for it with no success. He brought the document along with a verbal part to the story to my friend. My friend has so much to do he often cannot find the time to pursue the stories and he knowing I love a good mystery to solve brought the story to me.
The first thing I do because I to can be quite busy at times is validate the stories. In this case how it came to me was almost enough to go on but I scheduled a trip to see what I might find. On my first trip I found several things to validate the story of which those who are not accustom to seeing these certain things would walk past them and never consider or even notice what they had seen. It took near 5 or 6 trips to the area before we found the Coral and this was in 2007. About this time I suffered from unexpected financial troubles and have not been able to return. I will be returning next week finally. As I may have said formerly, I have been very fortunate in the information I have gathered over the years, I have many very incredible stories to conclude and many yet to peruse.
I hope this was more than you expected as it is always my desire to please
Tuscoro
PS... My interests in these types of stories is not so much the wealth at the end, but in this case I suspect a cache of written record of the indigenous tribes, their histories, which was in many cases of those who retained the skills of writing, their most valuable possession.
It wasn't so much the gold and silver Montecozuma sent North to flee the Spaniards if any, it was the sacred artifacts and the histories of their people their origins and most important to them, genealogies.
My labor of love is the study of Native American Petroglyphs based on the Theories of LaVan Martineau from his Book "The Rocks Begin to Speak" and discovering the origins of the Indigenous of this land.
It is intertwined with other aspects of my studies which I will with hold at this time. As a result of this, I have many who bring me documents photographs and share ancient sites with me.
Some of these people are Noted "Treasure Hunters" some might even call them Professionals and they often ask for my opinion not only in the Native American Glyphs but for some reason the Spanish marks left on the rocks and others as well. One in particular is an author of several books, as a result of this he has many people who come to him with stories/documents handed down from within their family. This particular document was brought to him by a descendant of the man who wrote it who had spent many years looking for it with no success. He brought the document along with a verbal part to the story to my friend. My friend has so much to do he often cannot find the time to pursue the stories and he knowing I love a good mystery to solve brought the story to me.
The first thing I do because I to can be quite busy at times is validate the stories. In this case how it came to me was almost enough to go on but I scheduled a trip to see what I might find. On my first trip I found several things to validate the story of which those who are not accustom to seeing these certain things would walk past them and never consider or even notice what they had seen. It took near 5 or 6 trips to the area before we found the Coral and this was in 2007. About this time I suffered from unexpected financial troubles and have not been able to return. I will be returning next week finally. As I may have said formerly, I have been very fortunate in the information I have gathered over the years, I have many very incredible stories to conclude and many yet to peruse.
I hope this was more than you expected as it is always my desire to please
Tuscoro
PS... My interests in these types of stories is not so much the wealth at the end, but in this case I suspect a cache of written record of the indigenous tribes, their histories, which was in many cases of those who retained the skills of writing, their most valuable possession.
It wasn't so much the gold and silver Montecozuma sent North to flee the Spaniards if any, it was the sacred artifacts and the histories of their people their origins and most important to them, genealogies.
Re: Los Mirayas
Jue 09 Feb 2012, 5:17 pm
Wow, good to know about it, i bet you know about hundreds of stories, so if you feel like writing tell us those stories as all the guys in the forum will be pleased to read them, I particularly love history and with every story comes imagination, to be placed in those moments and places, so thanks for the info and dont hesitate in letting us know how your investigation is going!!
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Re: Los Mirayas
Jue 09 Feb 2012, 5:27 pm
Again I would be happy to,
I have written 3 books so far in my 25+ years of research, One I will never publish as it was written for my posterity, the second is at the publisher and quite frankly, it was written for those who are capable of understanding among the Gentile people, and for the Mexican and or Indigenous people whom I know beyond a shadow of a doubt, regardless of what DNA and scientist say, are a hidden branch of the House of Israel. The problem I have is finding some one qualified to translate it to Spanish. It is available free to anyone who chooses to read it however it is in English and only in digital format (pdf). The 3rd book I am struggling with as it is a book that could cause me great grief, it would seem when truth is told, the old saying comes into play, "Truth Hurts" and so, if I publish it, I may not even put my name on it.
I have written 3 books so far in my 25+ years of research, One I will never publish as it was written for my posterity, the second is at the publisher and quite frankly, it was written for those who are capable of understanding among the Gentile people, and for the Mexican and or Indigenous people whom I know beyond a shadow of a doubt, regardless of what DNA and scientist say, are a hidden branch of the House of Israel. The problem I have is finding some one qualified to translate it to Spanish. It is available free to anyone who chooses to read it however it is in English and only in digital format (pdf). The 3rd book I am struggling with as it is a book that could cause me great grief, it would seem when truth is told, the old saying comes into play, "Truth Hurts" and so, if I publish it, I may not even put my name on it.
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Re: Los Mirayas
Lun 13 Feb 2012, 1:21 am
Saludos
No entiendo que relación hay en la parte de los ultimos renglones entre el cañón del Huajuco que mencionan ya que esa region forma parte de Santiago, NL y Tamatan (Tamaulipas) ya que la distancia es considerable.
Lo que indican como Tamatan ahi hubo una ex hacienda; actualmente hay un zoológico y otras instalaciones. Todo esto esta localizado en la capital de mi estado Tamaulipas.
Hay varios compañeros de este municipio tal vea lea pueda servir de ayuda.
Les anexo un link donde viene un mapa dE la localización del mencionado CAñon, es la página 3 ... De ahí a Tamatan es mucha distancia
http://www.ecologia.unam.mx/revistaammac/Vol3/Articulos/Moreno.pdf
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No entiendo que relación hay en la parte de los ultimos renglones entre el cañón del Huajuco que mencionan ya que esa region forma parte de Santiago, NL y Tamatan (Tamaulipas) ya que la distancia es considerable.
Lo que indican como Tamatan ahi hubo una ex hacienda; actualmente hay un zoológico y otras instalaciones. Todo esto esta localizado en la capital de mi estado Tamaulipas.
Hay varios compañeros de este municipio tal vea lea pueda servir de ayuda.
Les anexo un link donde viene un mapa dE la localización del mencionado CAñon, es la página 3 ... De ahí a Tamatan es mucha distancia
http://www.ecologia.unam.mx/revistaammac/Vol3/Articulos/Moreno.pdf
ECR
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Re: Los Mirayas
Lun 13 Feb 2012, 7:50 am
My Apologies, But I guess I do not understand your questions/concerns. This is one of those times where in the translator does not help.
Minhas desculpas, mas eu acho que eu não entenda as suas perguntas e preocupações. Este é um daqueles momentos em que no tradutor não ajudam.
Minhas desculpas, mas eu acho que eu não entenda as suas perguntas e preocupações. Este é um daqueles momentos em que no tradutor não ajudam.
Re: Los Mirayas
Lun 13 Feb 2012, 8:53 am
ODIN3000 escribió:Saludos
No entiendo que relación hay en la parte de los ultimos renglones entre el cañón del Huajuco que mencionan ya que esa region forma parte de Santiago, NL y Tamatan (Tamaulipas) ya que la distancia es considerable.
Lo que indican como Tamatan ahi hubo una ex hacienda; actualmente hay un zoológico y otras instalaciones. Todo esto esta localizado en la capital de mi estado Tamaulipas.
Hay varios compañeros de este municipio tal vea lea pueda servir de ayuda.
Les anexo un link donde viene un mapa dE la localización del mencionado CAñon, es la página 3 ... De ahí a Tamatan es mucha distancia
http://www.ecologia.unam.mx/revistaammac/Vol3/Articulos/Moreno.pdf
ECR
Greetings:
I dont undertand the link between the last sentences, because the huajuco canyon is located in Santiago NL and Tamatan Tamaulipas, both in Mexico, and the last one is far away from the canyon. What you said about Tamatan, used to be an hacienda there, now there is a zoo and other kind of buildings. Everything is located in the mexican state of Tamaulipas. There are many friends from that State which are parte of this forum that might help.
I attached a link where you can see a map where the canyon is located and it is pretty far from Tamatan, all in page 3... thanks.
Hope this helps..
Mora
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Re: Los Mirayas
Lun 13 Feb 2012, 9:18 am
Yes this does help and it is what I suspected was being asked.
The place mentioned in the end of the document is where the author of the document is from.
It has no bearing on the location of Las Mirallas or the Mis-understood name of the topic, Los Mirayas.
It is actually not far from Saint George Utah, it is not within the boundaries of Mexico.
Thank You for your help.
The place mentioned in the end of the document is where the author of the document is from.
It has no bearing on the location of Las Mirallas or the Mis-understood name of the topic, Los Mirayas.
It is actually not far from Saint George Utah, it is not within the boundaries of Mexico.
Thank You for your help.
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Re: Los Mirayas
Lun 13 Feb 2012, 4:34 pm
Disculpa Tuscoro, lo que dice el documento es murayas no mirayas.
saludos
saludos
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Re: Los Mirayas
Lun 13 Feb 2012, 5:36 pm
Yes... Murallas, I did it again didn't I?
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Re: Los Mirayas
Mar 14 Feb 2012, 9:08 am
Chat77, How are you coming with translation?
If you want a clear larger copy I can email it to you.
If you want a clear larger copy I can email it to you.
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Re: Los Mirayas
Mar 14 Feb 2012, 8:46 pm
Tuscoro... if you want,, send me a larger copy to my e-mail... I think I can help you... greetings from Mexico.... mi mail:
hidro_louis@yahoo.com.mx
hidro_louis@yahoo.com.mx
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Re: Los Mirayas
Mar 14 Feb 2012, 11:10 pm
You Got Mail
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Re: Los Mirayas
Miér 15 Feb 2012, 2:51 pm
Ok Tuscoro.. I received your e-mail.... greetings...pako
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Re: Los Mirayas
Jue 16 Feb 2012, 9:07 pm
Lo pongo en español para que vean de que se trata espero este bien traducido y les guste.
Vea usted esto
Valla a Las Murallas, encuentre el lugar donde este un corral reforzado y entre. Frente a donde el sol sale está una barranca de piedra valla para abajo, ahí está una cueva de grandes dimensiones, entre a la cueva al lado oriente, en el piso hay dos grandes piedras circulares (las cuales están marcadas con los números 1 y 2) y en el fondo se encuentran grabados unos gruesos tablones de madera de roble y “patas o /pasadores” del mismo tipo de madera cubiertos con piel de vaca. Lo que cubren son cofres que guardan una gran cantidad de barras de plata. Luego más al fondo está marcada una gran cruz de plomo, bajo esta, está cubierto por una piel de vaca un cofre que contiene oro, plata y una pequeña caja negra de madera de ébano. El que encuentre esto será muy feliz ya que además dentro de la pequeña cajita están los derroteros de los tesoros del indio José Pedro Salazar quien por mucho tiempo fue el dueño de esas montañas. Esos papeles están en un idioma que yo no entiendo y escritos con sangre de mula. Sea quien sea que tenga estos lienzos entre sus manos va a encontrar que rompiendo la pequeña cajita están joyas labradas/grabadas de oro y plata y madera de madroño en la que explica el lugar donde está oculta la otra parte del gran tesoro, dice que la tribu lo enterró, porque esa es una enorme cueva que almacena cantidades desconocidas que cualquier ser humano haya visto. Al norte de la gran muralla precisamente esta dicha cueva. A la entrada están dos enebros que parece que están marcados por los indios como señal de que esa es la cueva. Más adelante, hacia la parte norte del arroyo, hay tres grandes piedras en Jongo y en el centro un árbol frutal de duraznos.
Su buen amigo el señor Silvestre Prado, yo tengo 86 años y digo que la persona que tenga este papel en sus manos va a ser muy feliz.
Cañón de Huajuco, Tamatan, Tamaulipas 13 de Noviembre de 1900.
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Re: Los Mirayas
Jue 16 Feb 2012, 9:17 pm
Muchos Gracious!
Can you say Aztec Depository?
Can you say Aztec Depository?
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Re: Los Mirayas
Dom 19 Feb 2012, 8:42 am
We just returned from the coral, all the way across the desert there was a little indication of a storm that had passed through, some mud maybe but everything for the most part was dry. Upon reaching the location of the Coral and ravine, a thick layer of snow was present, It rarely snows in this place. Not a good idea hiking in the cliffs with snow. Canceled until better weather conditions.
Acabamos de regresar de los corales, todo el camino por el desierto había una poca indicación de una tormenta que había pasado a través de, tal vez un poco de barro, pero todo lo que en su mayor parte estaba seco. Al llegar a la ubicación de la Coral y el barranco, una gruesa capa de nieve estuvo presente, y rara vez nieva en este lugar. No es una buena idea ir de excursión en los acantilados de nieve. Cancelado hasta que las condiciones climáticas más favorables.
Acabamos de regresar de los corales, todo el camino por el desierto había una poca indicación de una tormenta que había pasado a través de, tal vez un poco de barro, pero todo lo que en su mayor parte estaba seco. Al llegar a la ubicación de la Coral y el barranco, una gruesa capa de nieve estuvo presente, y rara vez nieva en este lugar. No es una buena idea ir de excursión en los acantilados de nieve. Cancelado hasta que las condiciones climáticas más favorables.
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Re: Los Mirayas
Jue 23 Feb 2012, 8:49 am
I just learned that the descendants of Sylvestre Prado who wrote the document are presently from El Dorado Sinola Mexico. I wish I knew who they were, I feel it is rightfully theirs, and we are so close.
Me acabo de enterar que los descendientes de Silvestre Prado que escribieron el documento se encuentran en El Dorado Sinola México. Me gustaría saber quiénes son, creo que es suyo por derecho, y estamos tan cerca.
Me acabo de enterar que los descendientes de Silvestre Prado que escribieron el documento se encuentran en El Dorado Sinola México. Me gustaría saber quiénes son, creo que es suyo por derecho, y estamos tan cerca.
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Re: Los Mirayas
Jue 23 Feb 2012, 9:15 am
En el último viaje también me enteré de que una familia que ha vivido justo al oeste de Las Murallus de cerca de 6 generaciones, había sido givin su tierra por un indio mexicano que era dueño de la tierra en esa zona hace mucho tiempo.
Aunque no tengo ninguna duda de la autenticidad de la historia, siempre es bueno encontrar las verificaciones. ¿Está todo aburrirte con estas historias?
Aunque no tengo ninguna duda de la autenticidad de la historia, siempre es bueno encontrar las verificaciones. ¿Está todo aburrirte con estas historias?
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