la Breña, el corral de Majoma.

welcome amigo tuscoro some menbers speak inglish and will help you translating your documents ,contact hector hugo zavala he'll help you and again welcome . heraclio .....my inglish is poor and limited and can't spell good .

heraclio donan villa escribió:welcome amigo tuscoro some menbers speak inglish and will help you translating your documents ,contact hector hugo zavala he'll help you and again welcome . heraclio .....my inglish is poor and limited and can't spell good .

Thank you! Heraclio Donan Villa
I can't spell very good either, so don't feel bad... Thank you for the response and welcome, it is very difficult for me to navigate this web site because of my weakness in speaking Spanish. I am from Utah. I am not so much a treasure hunter but my research brings me many stories. I have a friend from Nobre de dios who is now working in Hawaii.
I have many friends from Mexico but I live so far from them, we only talk from time to time on the phone.

My first question, If I may, In an earlier message Mortero said; nomas lo escribo completo y lo subo a la pagina para el que le interese, nomas cruzar puntos de uno y otro
por ejemplo uno dice a 400 pasos
y otro dice a 400 pasos de a caballo
monton de piedra de malpais

Where in the 3 stories does it mention 400 pasos de a caballo Is there another document?

Also if I can figure this web site out, I would like to send a copy of a document brought from Mexico about 100 years ago, It is a story I am working on, I have found most of what it talks about but I am uncertain as to the translation. It is the original Spanish but is not good hand writing, and hard to read.

I would also be curious as to where most believe the corals of Majoma are and Hacienda del Ojo. Another document that has found its way to me talks in great detail of these places and much more, it is not any of the stories I have read here.

Is it possible to recover a treasure in Mexico, I do not want to get anyone into trouble, I have no interest other than the mystery of this story, and would like to see it go to good use, Clothe the naked, feed the poor and so on, not the selfishness of one greedy man. Besides, I have way to much expectations here.

I do not know how to contact Hector Hugo Zavala However he may contact me at my email address which I do not know if it is displayed or not, I did find the inbox and maybe that would be best.

That’s all for now, I hope this message is understood, it took me about an hour to get the first message to translate correctly. Unless you have better means you can use the Google translator here;

http://translate.google.com/#

Tuscoro

Welcome Mr. Tuscora I know some English and could help him
reference to your letter that you can send me a copy and I sent him two letters different bandits original.

my email is majoma2000@hotmail.com

Thank You Ricardoag.
Check your email.

Hi Tuscoro, welcome to the forum, and you can send me a private message, I might be able to help you, greetings from arizona us. by the way, this is a very interesting story,and would love to help you in anything you need. I'm following the lead of a spanish treasure and will be out in the field this coming thursday until sunday, but I'll check my messages as soon as I'm back in town.
Damian

Tuscoro escribió:Hello my friends in Mexico. I live much further north (not Arizona) and might be able to give some credence to this story, but I need a little help with translation, My Spanish is poor, is there someone here who speaks English?

It would be nice to have someone in Mexico to help with the translation of documents that have accumulated here in the North. Am I welcome here?

Anyone?
Thanks for letting me into your forum, it is difficult for me to read or talk, because I have to use a translator and it seems to mix the contents.

Hola mis amigos de México. Yo vivo mucho más al norte (no de Arizona) y podría ser capaz de dar cierta credibilidad a esta historia, pero necesito un poco de ayuda con la traducción, Mi español es pobre, ¿hay alguien aquí que habla Inglés?

Sería bueno tener a alguien en México para ayudar con la traducción de los documentos que se han acumulado aquí en el Norte.

¿Alguien?
Gracias por dejarme entrar en su foro, es difícil para mí leer ni hablar, porque tengo que usar un traductor y parece que mezclar el contenido.

¿Soy la bienvenida?

Welcome to the Forum Tuscoro.
If you need anything I´ll be happy to help you.
I can also do translations of documents, and paleography (some times the old handwriting is confusing).
I´m a researcher at the SMHAG www.smhag.org and director of the Archaeology department, I have a degree in Cultural Heritage, also I´m a Treasure Hunter.
I hope you enjoy your visits here, keep in touch!
Greetings from Michoacan, Mexico.

Hello Gentlemen....
and thank you very much for the responses.
when I first came to this forum I felt like I was jumping into the middle of Durango City with nothing but a necktie on!
Thank you all for lightening the load.

I feel my research is very important, It is broad, It deals with the Indigenous of this land, where they came from, when they came, who they were and who they are today, it deals with the geography this land and the drastic changes that took place not only in the days of the terrible hurricanes spoken of by the Aztec as per Tezozomoc, but also Veytia, but also at the events of destruction of 2011 years ago and the reasons the Aztec convened to "correct" their calendar. Many would suppose it was due to the inaccuracies of their previously used calendar, and in part this is correct, but prior to the great event, the calendars were right on. It explains the strange alignment of ancient sites not only in Mexico but also the ruins of the Mound Builders of the Mississippi valley not to mention Stonehenge.

So this research is broad and takes me to places and things I never thought possible, ANY help would be greatly appreciated. I prefer anyone who offers help be some how compensated, however these days I am victim of the Obama administration in his so called reform.

I have written a book I hope to publish soon, there are many who are not going to like the ideas it presents, particularly Archaeologist with a Mormon based belief in their Yucatan Theory. Scholars of geology, fans of Einstein, paleontologist and the like.....But enough of that.

Damian. you say you are a Photographer, How is your skills at photographing the constellations? Here I could really use some help. Just two photographs will do the trick.

Guruainur, You fascinate me, Here in the states an Archaeologist would never admit any affiliation with Treasure hunting, here, they are nothing more than licensed thieves and suppressors of truth.
EVERYTHING seems different in Mexico, here they treat Cancer and slowly kill the patience all in the name of their bank account, In Mexico, they don't treat it, they cure it! It is illegal to cure it here.

I have a document I would like to send to the both of you, I am not concerned with giving the location away simply because even though it names the place one needs the verbal part of it in order to find it, it is quite possibly the big one and it has extreme ties with the indigenous of this land and that includes all south and Central American tribes. I have no intention of informing the wrong people of its location. Guruainur, this is one that you may take a special interest


Just as the one that brought me to your forum, Mojamo, I am fairly certain I have a document that speaks of the same place and names no less than 8 other places of caches four of which I have located, and these locations were used for over 200 years, what was found in 1907 as per the article dated Feb 3rd which by the way I found also some 2 or 3 years ago, is only a small part of what is there, the finders never knew what lay just yards from where they stood.

I have so many questions......and there is so much more I would like to share….
Please, the both of you may email me, I can't tell you if my email shows anywhere, if not please get me your email addresses through PM, at least I know where to find that.

Thank you so much for your responses and willingness to help.

Tuscoro
PS, anyone feel free to translate this for the other readers,It would take me days.

!!!!!!!!
:xxx:

jljv42 escribió:!!!!!!!!

Si no sabes que dicen: www.goggle.com y busca traductor, asi al menos te daras una leve idea de lo que estan escribiendo.....no es preciso pero como ayuda... San Goggle....

Saludos


Atte

Chicharo

Hi tuscoro, I'll send you mi email address. Today.
Damian

saludos a todos me voy a atrever a traducir lo que el amigo tuscoro decea sea traducido para los demas lectores del foro , disculpen la ortografia ; hola caballeros y muchas gracias por las respuestas. cuando me meti a este foro me senti como llegar a media ciudad ed durango sin nada mas que mi corbata. gracias por iluminar el camino, yo siento que mi investigacion es muy importante ,es amplia y tieneque ver conlos indigenas de este lugar,de donde vinieron, cuando vinieron quienes eran y quienes son ahora,tiene que ver comn la geografia del lugar y los cambios drasticos que tuvieron lugar no solo en los dias de los terribles huracanes mencinados por los aztecas asi como tezozomoc y tambien veytia, tambien los eventos de destruccion del 2011 anios antes.y las razones los aztecas convinieron a cambiar su calendario.muchos supondrian que fue por inexactitudes del calendario anterior que usaron , y parte es correcto.pero antes del gran evento los calendarios era correctos.se explica el extranio aliniamiento de sitios antiguos no solo en mexico sino tambien en las ruinas 'mound builders' del valle del misisipi, si mencionar stonehenge. asi que esta investigacion es muy amplia y me lleva a lugares y cosa que nunca imagine posibles, cualquier ayuda sera muy agradecida.yo pienso que el que ofrece ayuda sera recompensado de alguna manera. buen por ahora soy victima de la administracion obama y su reforma. he escrito un libro que espero publicar pronto,hay a muchos que no les van a gustar las ideas que presenta.particularmente arqueologos con base mormona basada en la teoria yucatan. geologos y simpatizantes de einstein paleontologos y mas .......pero suficiente de esto.DAMIAN tu me dices que ers fotografo que habilidades tiens fotografiando constelaciones. podria usar tu ayuda con solo dos fots seria suficiente. GURUAINUR ;me facinas ,aqui en los usa ningun arqueologo admitiria que tiene nexos con busca tesoros. aqui no son mas que ladrones con licencia y obstructores de la verdad. todo parece ser diferente en mexico,aqui tratan el cancer y matan al paciente lentamente mientras su centa bancaria crece .en mexico no lo tratan lo curan , aqui es ilegal curarlo. tengo un documento que me gustaria mandarle a ambos. no me preocupa dar el lugar simplemente porque simplemente uno ocupa la parte verbal para encontrarlo .es muy posible sea algo grande, y tiene nexos extrmos con los indigenas de este lugar y eso incluye a todas las tribus de sur y centro america . no tengo intencion de informar ala gente equivoca de este lugar. GURUAINUR; este es uno que quizas tu tomes especial interes . asi como el que me trajo a tu foro MOJAMO estoy casi seguro que tengo un documento que habla del mismo lugar y nombres no menos de 8 lugares de tesoros 4 de ellos ya los localice , y estas locaciones fueron usadas por mas de 200 anios. lo que se encontro en 1907 como dice el articulo fechado febrero 3 el cual por cierto encontre ase como 2 o 3 anios.es solo una pequenia parte de lo que esta ahi. los que buscaban nunca supieron lo que yacia a solo metros de donde pisaban. tengo tantas preguntas ,y hay tanto que quisiera compartir. por favor ambos mandenme un correo no se si mi correo aparece en algun lado , sino mandenme sus correos por PM de perdido ese si se donde esta. gracias por las respuestas y voluntad de ayudar, PS cualquiera sientase libre de traducir esto para los demas lectores .

Damian, you will have to send me an email, for some reason my email will not recognise your address.....
I FOUND THE PROBLEM, check your email....

I had alot of trouble getting into the forum today, I forgot my password.
and, apparrently I cannot respond to private messages because I do not have enough posts.

Tuscoro

Thank You heraclio donan villa for the translation....

Sorry about that vote thing... I guess I better quit clicking on things.

not a problem tuscoro glad to help .

:hola: jejejejejeejejeje

HI,THERE "TUSCORO",YES YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO THIS AMAZING FORUM (BUSCADORES DE TESOROS) TREASURE HUNTERS,WICH WE DEDICATED A100% IN THE TREASURE HUNTING PASSION,THATS TO BAD NOW FOR OUR SPOKEN AND UNDERSTANDING BARRIER,BUT IN THIS FORUM THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE TO HELP,,,IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO SEND ME A PRIVATE MESSAGE OR AN E-MAIL,HERE IS MY E-MAIL windury4ever@yahoo.com AND LIKE "DON HERACLIO"SAID WE ARE HAPPY TO HELP YOU BUD,GOD BLESS GREETINGS FROM CALIFORNIA

Gracias Héctor por la cálida bienvenida

Have any of you heard of Valentine Castrillon, Captain of a gang of bandits from the year 1777 until 1790

Tuscoro escribió:Have any of you heard of Valentine Castrillon, Captain of a gang of bandits from the year 1777 until 1790

NOPE "TUSCORO"I TRY TO GOOGLE IT,BUT NOTHING COME UP,BUT FOR HIS LAST NAME I CAN TELL YOU HE'S FROM SPAIN VASCO TO BE EXACT,ANY WAY WHO IS HE CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT HIM PLEASE!!!!!!

Valentine Castrillon is the author of the document I have, it is very descriptive and names several locations of caches, it is the main reason I came to this forum. of the four documents (three which are posted here) it is the most descriptive.

I will tell you how I got it.

A man who is somewhat known in these parts and is a self proclaimed treasure hunter, (I will call him Bob) was helping some one in Mexico off the coast near Vera Cruz working on a sunken ship story. While he was in Mexico he was approached by some woman or man and asked if he would take a look at a document that had been handed down from generation to generation. He agreed and upon looking at the original hand written document he asked if he could make a copy. The man or woman agreed, it took all day to find a Xerox copy machine but they did find one. He brought the copy back to the states and proceeded in gathering maps and information pertaining to the area of Durango. Keep in mind this was in the 80's ??? it wasn't easy to find the information needed. He always thought he knew where it was and of course he was looking for Majoma Corrals. He never made it back to Mexico and is now doing very poorly health wise.

After being in Mexico some years ago Bob became friends with a man I would later meet and become good friends with. (I will call him John) After a few years of knowing him and working with him on some projects he offered to show me the English translation of the Spanish written document that Bob had shared with him. He gave me a copy and it had all the place names taken out, after reading it I told him I have read this before and I have a copy, John looked stunned, he said, That’s impossible. So I got him a copy of the one I had and he asked where did you get this? I told him that a certain man gave it to me to try to figure out where it was. Immediately he knew how I had been able to get a copy. Years ago Bob had taken the document to another man I know and author of several books. The author at that time asked if he could study the document that Bob had brought to him to help figure out where it was. Bob decided to leave the translation with the author and left to go get in his car, after sitting in he car for a minute or two, he decided not to leave a copy. He went back to the door and asked for it back, but the author had already made a copy.

Years later but before I met John he gave me a copy.
Since then I have located four of the cache sites including Majoma.
My problem is, what to do with it? I'll never go there. And I would like some help in finding the other locations mentioned but have run out of resources.

So, this is how I got a copy of the Valentine Castrillon document.
If this were located here in the states, I would find every possible way to see that it was used to help the poor. For the first time in my life I almost considered one of them.
I would settle for just one percent of what is still located at Majoma and the other locations.

I found the other 3 stories, which are here in this forum about two years ago along with the news paper article showing part of it being found. Based on what I am reading here in this forum it would seem people are looking in the wrong place, Bob was looking in the wrong place also.

WOW!!!"Tuscoro"WHAT A FASINATING STORY,AND THE WAY YOU HAVE OBTAIN THIS IMPORTANT CACHE SITES,MY HUMBLE RECOMMENDATION TO YOU TUSCORO,IS THIS DO NOT SETTLE,IF THE TREASURE IS THERE I AM PRETTY SURE YOU ARE GONNAVTO UNEARTHED YOUSELF,THINK OF THE ADVENTURE YOU ARE GONNA HAVE,THAT MANY OF US WON'T EVEN GONNA BE CLOSE TO IT,GATTER SOME MONEY,GET TO KNOW SOMEBODY YOU CAN FULLY TRUST,AND ORGANIZE AN EXPEDITION,I GUARANTEE IS GONNA BE A TRILL OF A LIFETIME,ALTHOUG YOU JUST HAVE TO CONSIDER,THAT MANY PEOPLE DON'T LIKE GRINGOS,LOOKING FOR SOME BURIED TREASURE ARROUND BUT I AM SURE WITH A PROPER APPROACH,YOU WILL GAIN A GREEN LIGHT TO ANYTHING,,,,YOU KNOW TUSCORO I AM MYSELF GOING TO MEXICO,IN EARLY JUNE MAYBE MAY,LET ME KNOW PLEASE IF YOU WANT TO GO WITH ME,SO WE CAN HAVE A PLAN OF ACCTION OKAY,,,YOUR FRIEND H.Hugo I BELIEVE YOU HAVE MY E-MAIL PLEASE LET ME KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS,,,

Hector. I sent you an email a few days ago, did you get it?

Tuscoro, tomorrow I'm gonna send you an email when I'll have some time... interesting story you have here. I gree with Hector, why you don't go by yourself to dig it out???

The simple answers are these.....
It doesn't belong to me...
It's to far away.....
I have no need for it and yet I am without enough to take care of my family.
I have more than enough to do here, if I had the resources.....
I must admit, I would love to be there when it is found....
It is difficult to explain……

Have any of you heard of a tribe of indigenous of Mexico called Chicaraga and they live high in the mountains of Guatemala?
Some call them the Temple People
Some call the city the sacred white city.
Has any one heard of Chief Echa Tah Echa Nah,
Chi Chi Samu of Mexico or Chief Etna of Peru?

Pishum,
I would welcome an email, send it to my inbox and don't forget to leave an email address, I cannot repond to Private Messages in Inbox...I think.

hello toscoro
I could not send a copy of the notice by mail Electone poque hotmail I have to scan a color to clear out
you sent me a copy of a letter that speaks of Miraya
now entering the forum questions that do know of a bandit named Valentin Castillo, I have one that talks about this villain and I think that is the same as you have the one I have typewritten copy of oto bandit and I have spoken of the same

Is your copy of valentin Castrillon manuscript is original and has few leaves?

Here are several known writings that speak the same thing but has never seen the original.

Greetings

when I can I send the copy I have.

NO "TUSCORO"I DID NOT RECIEVE YOUR E-MAIL PLEASE TRY AGAIN;) windury4ever@Yahoo.com i will send YOU MY message number and my cell phone via private message okay so we stay in touch and get to know each other,,cool...you seem to be a serious person and you seems to know what do you talking about...